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[haw-info] Iran War Weekly - November 28, 2012
Historians Against the War is posting Frank Brodhead's "Iran War Weekly,' as a helpful resource for our members and friends. Frank earned a PhD in history at Princeton University and has co-authored several books on US foreign policy. He is a scholar and political activist who has worked with peace and social justice movements for many years. In 2010-2011 he produced the "Afghanistan War Weekly," which was widely used by antiwar groups across the country.
Iran War Weekly
November 28, 2012
Hello All – The Gaza war, the US presidential election, and a recently released IAEA report critical of Iran will provide the context for a new round of talks about Iran's nuclear program scheduled to begin in mid-December. How will these factors shape the next round of talks and, more generally, the possibility of escalating or de-escalating the war against Iran? Each of these issues is addressed in the good/useful readings linked below.
Many commentators on the Gaza war, especially those outside the United States, maintain that Israel lost the war, with the winners being Hamas and arguably Iran. This is a widely held view in Israel itself, where Netanyahu's failure to destroy Gaza's ability to launch rockets against Israeli cities was deeply upsetting to many. The fact that some of these weapons were of Iranian origin only adds to the distress. While further fighting is not expected before mid-January's presidential election in Israel, where the outcome is expected to return Netanyahu's coalition to power, there is little confidence that the ceasefire will be long-lasting. Discontent with the outcome of the Gaza war will be one of the factors influencing Israel's approach to the next round of Iran nuclear negotiations.
Does the re-election of President Obama portend a more favorable climate for negotiations about Iran's nuclear program? While the administration seems to be encouraging "diplomacy," and hinting at face-to-face negotiations with Iran, there has been no public softening of the US negotiating terms, nor any reason to think that the United States is backing away from its goal of regime change. Nor, in light of on-going congressional action to strengthen sanctions against Iran, does it seem likely that the United States will be willing put reducing sanctions on the table in exchange for concessions from Iran. But with the election behind him, Obama may be able to put Israel on notice that it will not support military action against Iran; or, in the words of former National Security Advisor Brzezinski noted below, it has "no implicit obligation to follow like a stupid mule" an Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear sites.
Controversy continued this week over the meaning and accuracy of the recent IAEA report about Iran's nuclear program. This is important, in that the report will serve as "the West's" database during the up-coming negotiations in assessing what Iran is doing. Following up on the controversy reported in last week's IWW, Gareth Porter has published an important analysis of the mainstream media's misreading of the IAEA report, which he claims greatly overstates the significance of Iran's increased enrichment capacity, while neglecting the significance of its conversion of much of its enriched uranium to a form useful only as nuclear fuel. In other news, Parchin is back again this week; and the Associated Press is treating as a "scoop" a document – a graph – that shows how a nuclear explosion works. Both items, imo, fit the Chomsky-Herman media model definition of "flack"; more on this below.
Regarding Syria, I've included some links to recent reports and assessments of how the war is affecting Syria's neighbors. To keep up-to-date with developments in Syria and their implications for the war on Iran, I recommend www.syriacomment.com and www.warincontext.org.
Once again, I appreciate the help that many of you have given in distributing the Iran War Weekly and/or linking it on websites. Previous "issues" of the IWW can be read at http://warisacrime.org/blog/46383. If you would like to receive the IWW mailings, please send me an email at email@example.com.
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IRAN AND THE GAZA WAR
Iran and Hamas Winners In Gaza Conflict
By Seyed Hossein Mousavian, Al-Monitor [November 2012]
---- Israel did not achieve the goal it had publicly declared: the destruction of Hamas's rocket capability. Hamas and other Palestinian militant organizations were able to continue rocket attacks into Israel, reaching further targets with neighborhoods in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem for the first time. The latest Israeli failure was replayed during the 33-day war with Hezbollah in 2006 and the 22-days war with Hamas in 2008-9 respectively. While seemingly a repetition of past conflicts, the latest Israeli-Hamas duel occurred in a fundamentally different regional reality that will have major repercussions for Israel and Arab leaders, while Iran stands to gain the most. http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2012/al-monitor/gazawarregionaleffects.html
Gaza, Iran and Israel's Never-ending War with Reality
By Farideh Farhi, LobeLog [November 21, 2012]
---- The Gaza problem, in the minds of the Netenyahu-Barak duo, is caused by Iran, according to Salam Masalha, writing in Haaretz: "[t]he current operation can be called "the little southern Iranian operation," since it's designed to paralyze Iran's southern wing. The next operation will be "the little northern Iranian operation ": It will try to destroy Iran's Lebanon wing." Israeli officials must be feeling like they're losing their public relations war on Gaza. … After all, it is not Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is calling Israel a "terrorist state" these days, but Prime Minister Recept Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey. http://www.lobelog.com/gaza-iran-and-israels-never-ending-war-with-reality/
For Israel, Gaza Conflict Is Test for an Iran Confrontation
By David E. Sanger and Thom Shanker, New York Times [November 22, 2012]
IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM
Window of opportunity may open in U.S.-Iran nuclear standoff
By Carol J. Williams, Los Angeles Times [November 24, 2012]
---- A multi-front campaign to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon has been stalled for months by the distractions of a U.S. presidential campaign, Tehran's stop-and-go negotiating tactics and its role in deadly clashes in Syria and Gaza. Now that President Obama has a fresh four-year mandate and Iran's influence with Middle East neighbors seems to be fading, Tehran is expected back at the negotiating table soon and, some observers believe, in a more constructive mood to resolve the nuclear standoff. http://latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-iran-nuclear-outlook-20121123,0,6872116.story
News Media Misled by IAEA Data on Sensitive Iranian Stockpile
By Gareth Porter, Inter Press Service [November 20, 2012]
---- News stories on the latest International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report suggested new reasons to fear that Iran is closer to a "breakout" capability than ever before, citing a nearly 50% increase in its stockpile of 20% enriched uranium and the installation of hundreds of additional centrifuges at the Fordow enrichment installation. But the supposedly dramatic increase in the stockpile of uranium that could theoretically be used to enrich to weapons grade is based on misleading figures in the Nov. 16 IAEA report. http://original.antiwar.com/porter/2012/11/20/news-media-misled-by-iaea-data-on-sensitive-iranian-stockpile/
AP Presents Shoddy Evidence From Dubious Sources as Proof of Iranian Weapons Program
By John Glaser, Antiwar.com [November 27, 2012]
---- An Associated Press report by a journalist with a reputation for speculative and misleading coverage of Iran's nuclear program claims that a shoddy Iranian diagram, leaked by "a country critical of Iran's atomic program" suggests the Islamic Republic is working on a nuclear weapon. "The diagram was leaked by officials from a country critical of Iran's atomic program to bolster their arguments that Iran's nuclear program must be halted before it produces a weapon," reports George Jahn. "The officials provided the diagram only on condition that they and their country not be named." The diagram is proof of nothing except that Iranian nuclear scientists may be doing nuclear work and possess knowledge of the processes. http://news.antiwar.com/2012/11/27/ap-presents-shoddy-evidence-from-dubious-sources-as-proof-of-iranian-weapons-program/
NFZ Conference Canceled
Iran Censures US Decision to Cancel NFZ Conference
From Iran Review [November 27, 2012] ---- Iran has censured the US decision to cancel an international conference on banning nuclear weapons in the Middle East, calling it a blatant violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). In a unilateral move, the US has announced that the conference, originally scheduled to be held in Finland's capital, Helsinki, in December, should be postponed. [Iran's] Soltanieh emphasized that the decision is also a breach of the nuclear treaty mandate, which was approved through consensus during the NPT Review Conference in New York in 2010. http://www.campaigniran.org/casmii/index.php?q=node/13054
US POLICIES AND PERSPECTIVES
What Obama's Re-Election Means for U.S.-Iran Negotiations
By Barbara Slavin, US News and World Report [November 20, 2012]
---- Optimism when it comes to diplomacy with Iran is usually misplaced. But the re-election of Barack Obama has opened a new window for negotiations with the Islamic Republic and there is reason for modest hope that the current crisis over Iran's nuclear advancement can be defused. Had Mitt Romney won on November 6, both U.S. and Iranian diplomats would have been loath to make concessions to seal a deal that an incoming Republican administration might have repudiated. … A re-elected Obama has greater flexibility to cut a deal, while the Iranians have the comfort of dealing with a known quantity.
US Can Deter and Contain Iran, Brzezinski Says
By Barbara Slavin, Al-Monitor [November 26, 2012]
---- Former White House national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski said Monday that the United States has "no implicit obligation to follow like a stupid mule" an Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear sites and that a US or an Israeli attack on the Islamic Republic would be "the worst option" should negotiations fail. He fleshed out his arguments in favor of what amounts to a containment strategy as the "least bad" alternative in the event that Iran develops a nuclear weapon. During the recently concluded presidential election campaign, both President Barack Obama and his losing challenger Mitt Romney insisted that containment of Iran was not an option and that they were prepared to use military force to prevent Iran from crossing the nuclear weapons threshold. However, Brzezinski said that the problem of Iran's advancing nuclear program pales in comparison to the consequences of an attack, which he called "an act of utter irresponsibility and potential immorality" given the civilian casualties that would likely ensue. http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2012/al-monitor/brzezinskiusiran.html
[Video of the Brzezinski talk] "Diplomats and Experts Discuss Way Forward With Iran"
Sattar Beheshti: When an Islamic Republic goes to 'the abyss of hell'
By Hamid Dabashi, Columbia University [November 20, 2012]
---- People who care about the life and liberty of those millions of Iranians trapped inside a Godforsaken Islamic Republic and thus categorically oppose the imposition of crippling economic sanctions and, a fortiori, a military strike against them - which means the overwhelming majority of Iranians themselves except a sliver minority among the so-called "expat opposition", who are willing to destroy their own homeland and subject millions of human beings to catastrophe just to go back to rule it - now face a seeming conundrum. If they oppose these sanctions and the military strike they anticipate then they must keep quiet about the massive human rights abuses in Iran from fear of not fuelling the fire that Binyamin Netanyahu and his AIPAC-funded propaganda machinery wish to keep aflame, and if they do underline those abuses they become implicated in these vicious warmongerings.
Years of Torture in Iran Comes to Light
By Kristen McTighe, New York Times [November 21, 2012]
---- The Iran Tribunal, an independent tribunal set up in 2007 by survivors and families of victims, has ruled that the Islamic Republic committed crimes against humanity and gross violations of human rights during the 1980s. The ruling, which has no legal standing and is symbolic in nature came after a three-day hearing in The Hague and was based on testimonies and evidence gathered by a truth commission in July in London, where 75 witnesses, including survivors and families of victims, testified to widespread patterns of brutality and disregard for basic human rights as well as extrajudicial executions throughout the country. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/world/middleeast/years-of-torture-in-iran-comes-to-light.html?ref=world
Blisters and Sanctions
---- I feel ashamed because I know I cannot help them. It is not only Reza and Ali whose lives are in danger because of the shortage of medicine in Iran now; there are many thousands of survivors of chemical weapons, both civilians and veterans, who have the same problems. My mind goes to the US presidential debates in the preceding weeks. President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney were in a race to promise the most "crippling" sanctions on Iran. And all I wish to do is to ask them: Maybe the "international community" has said it is "legal" to cripple a population to this extent. But is it moral? Is it right? http://www.merip.org/blisters-sanctions#.ULKqWN81Zn9.facebook
Turkey: so it IS gold for gas after all
By Daniel Dombey, Financial Times [November 23, 2012]
---- One of the strangest recent developments in Turkey has been gold sales to Iran, which have soared, so helping improve the country's trade and balance of payments figures. … What has been murkier, however, is the precise reason for the gold sales. It is clear that they have come amid a scramble in sanctions-hit Iran for hard currency and its equivalents; as the rial has fallen and inflation has risen, Tehran has banned gold exports, for instance. But the Turkish government has denied that Ankara is paying in gold for its imports of Iranian gas, the biggest ticket item in the two countries' trading relationship. … So what happens next? It seems to be a case of an unstoppable force, in the form of ever tougher sanctions, and an immovable object, in the guise of the gas trade. At stake are the Turkish economy, the country's relationship with Iran and power politics, in every sense of the phrase. http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2012/11/23/turkey-so-it-is-gold-for-gas-after-all/#axzz2DGk08HSs
Despite the sabre-rattling, an attack on Iran is now unlikely
By Patrick Cockburn, The Independent UK] [November 25, 2012]
---- If the Israelis wanted to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities, they have probably left it too late. No sooner was Israel's bombardment of Gaza over than Israeli and US officials started to ratchet up the prospects of an Israeli air attack on Iran in the next few months. This is scarcely surprising. The threat has served Tel Aviv and Washington well in the past because it enabled them to persuade the rest of the world to impose swingeing sanctions on Iran as the only alternative to war. Even so, claims that a final confrontation with Iran is only months away are looking a bit dog-eared, given that this must be one of the most frequently postponed wars in history. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/despite-the-sabrerattling-an-attack-on-iran-is-now-unlikely-8348299.html
Iran Complains to UN About Illegal US Overflights
By Jason Ditz, Antiwar.com [November 23, 2012]
---- The Iranian government has sent letters to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the United Nations Security Council today complaining about "illegal and provocative acts" carried out by the US Navy along their coast. The complaint included the US drone overflight earlier this month, which US officials claimed was just barely outside of Iranian airspace and which Iranians say was just barely inside it. The drone was fired on, but not damaged. The Iranian Ambassador said there were seven other US overflights before the drone incident, all centered on the coastal city of Bushehr (the home of a Russian-built nuclear reactor), and all of which ignored radio warnings. The US has yet to comment on the letter, but it seems to put the firing on the US drone in a different context if US overflights had happened several times in the month leading up to it. http://news.antiwar.com/2012/11/23/iran-complains-to-un-about-illegal-us-overflights/
CIVIL WAR/INTERVENTION IN SYRIA\
Key UN committee approves resolution condemning 'gross' human rights violations by Syria
From the Associated Press [ , 2012]
Syria and Israel
Israel's View of the Syrian Crisis
From Brookings [November 26, 2012]
---- In early 2011, the outbreak of the Syrian crisis that has since descended into civil war sparked a rethink of Israel's policy toward its neighbor. While Israel may have once preferred the Assad regime to remain in power rather than take its chances with an unknown successor, this "the devil we know" approach is no longer valid. After Israel had found itself frustrated by developments beneficial to Iran and its "Resistance Axis" throughout the Arab Spring—most notably the fall of Zine el Abidine Ben Ali and Hosni Mubarak—the increasing pressure on the Syrian regime has represented a blow to Iran and its allies. Thus, while recognizing that Israel has little to no influence on the course of events in Syria, Israel's leaders have largely reached a consensus that Assad's departure from power is preferable.
Syria and Lebanon
A Precarious Balancing Act: Lebanon and the Syrian Conflict
From the International Crisis Group [November 22, 2012] – 40 pages
Syria and Iraq
Iraq tensions rise as Syria crisis deepens
By Lauren Williams, Daily Star [Lebanon] [November 28, 2012]
--- The crisis in Syria is threatening to rupture Iraq's precarious sectarian divide, which some say may re-ignite into a civil war. Wedged between Syria's greatest ally, Iran, and its greatest foe, Turkey, with its own volatile ethnic makeup, oil riches and fresh out of years of civil strife, Iraq is desperately clinging to a neutrality on the Syrian crisis. That policy is being increasingly put to the test as players from across Iraq's fragile political spectrum begin to take sides in a war of increasing sectarian dimensions. http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2012/Nov-28/196348-iraq-tensions-rise-as-syria-crisis-deepens.ashx#ixzz2DWRGTl7C
Instability in Jordan
Jordan Protesters Dream of Shift to King's Brother
By David D. Kirkpatrick, New York Times [November 21, 2012]
---- The political tremors are disconcerting for American policy makers because of the role Jordan has played as a dependable ally and a stabilizing buffer zone in a volatile region. Jordan is the only Arab country besides Egypt to sign a peace treaty with Israel, and, in contrast to Egypt, the Islamist party in Jordan that has made up the principal political opposition has staunchly opposed the pact. Also, Jordan sits between Iraq and Syria, and it has absorbed vast numbers of refugees, including hundreds of thousands fleeing the Syrian strife. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/world/middleeast/jordan-protesters-dream-of-shift-to-prince-hamzah.html?pagewanted=1&ref=world
[haw-info] Letter to Historians Against the War
Dear Fellow Members and Supporters of Historians Against the War:
As you may have seen, filmmaker Oliver Stone and I have recently released our book The Untold History of the United States. It is a companion to our ten-part documentary film series that began airing on Showtime November 12. It is a hard-hitting, controversial history of the American empire and national security state—an in-depth look at American militarism in its various manifestations. The book begins with the late 19th century. The documentaries focus more on the period from World War II to the present.
Oliver and I are thrilled that Showtime has had the courage to air a program presenting the kind of history that rarely reaches a mainstream U.S. audience and that Simon & Schuster is promoting the book so aggressively. The book is selling in Walmart, Costco, and Sam's and will be on this coming week's New York Times bestseller list.
We have also been doing a media blitz in which we've had remarkable access to mainstream outlets as well as to shows like Democracy Now and Tavis Smiley that would be more expected. We have also done a series of public screenings, events, and panels. Fellow panelists have included Jon Wiener, Robert Scheer, Marilyn Young, Danny Walkowitz, Katrina vanden Heuvel, Jonathan Schell, Doug Brinkley, Jeff Madrick, Victor Navasky, Michael Hastings, Louis Lapham, and David Wollner.
I am writing because we need your help. So far the overwhelming majority of articles and reviews have been glowing. But we know that we are in for a battle. And it is getting nasty. The lines were drawn in articles by Ron Radosh and David Horowitz. Sean Wilentz, who deplores our criticism of Reagan and the Clintons, and who told Radosh that he agreed completely with his red-baiting attack on us in Bill Kristol's Weekly Standard, will be coming out with a review in the New York Review of Books.
We need as much support from historians as we can get in the form of letters, blogs, reviews, screenings, symposia, etc. I'm copying a personal note from Dan Ellsberg and some of the early blurbs and comments below followed by some of the media coverage, including my response to a hatchet job in the Daily Beast. I tried to attach the book jacket, Foreword, and part of the Introduction to our book so that you could see what we are arguing and why it is so disturbing to those who defend American exceptionalism, empire, and wars, but the posting got too long to send. If you contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org, I will be happy to email them to you. Simon & Schuster has been good about sending review copies to potential reviewers, so let me know if you need one.
Peter, it's WONDERFUL, it's historic, it's as hopeful as anything I can think of, that this country and the world are getting to your YOUR voice and your take on our history on this scale. It really can and may make a difference in our national consciousness like nothing else that I can remember. Hell, when I had a national audience for what I had to say about Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers, I didn't KNOW most of the stuff in this series and your book. I had to learn it later, on my own. (I wish I'd had this book before that, long before that--but then, I wouldn't have gone to Vietnam at all, so maybe it was for the best!)
NO ONE has had your current access to the media (thank you, Oliver! Who's saying very good things, too, including his emphasis on law), along with YOUR knowledge and eloquence to say what you're saying. It's not just the series, which starts tonight and presumably will have even more impact altogether: but it's your face-to-face interviews, saying things about American empire that very, very few of the public will have ever heard before. And about Obama, too, from people who voted from him not only in 2008 but of necessity in 2012 too (like Stone, and I presume you too, no?) This is the glasnost, at last, that I hoped for when I first heard about this project from you. You worked like hell, for years, and it could not have been more worthwhile! THANK YOU both, and congratulations!
Blurbs and comments:
"Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick provide a critical overview of US foreign policy during the past few decades. There is much here to reflect upon. Such a perspective is indispensable at a time when decisions are being taken that will shape America's role in the global world of the twenty-first century. At stake is whether the United States will choose to be the policeman of a "Pax Americana", which is a recipe for disaster, or partner with other nations on the way to a safer, more just and sustainable future." -- President Mikhail Gorbachev
"Howard [Zinn] would have loved this 'people's history' of the American Empire. It's compulsive reading: brilliant, a masterpiece!" --Daniel Ellsberg, author Secrets
"Kuznick and Stone's Untold History is the most important historical narrative of this century; a carefully researched and brilliantly rendered account of how we evolved from a 'City Upon the Hill' to the global superpower athwart the world." –Martin Sherwin, Pulitzer Prize winning co-author (with Kai Bird) American Prometheus "Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick have done what many would consider impossible. They have written a political history of the United States in the 20th Century that tells us exactly how the United States became an empire through conscious decisions, and how the struggle to maintain that empire will go on despite which political party holds office. It is a brilliant survey of the untold story."—Lloyd Gardner, author The Road to Baghdad
"Oliver Stone owns the audacity franchise in America. His sweeping Untold History of the United States - coauthored by Peter Kuznick - is a brave revisionist study which shatters many foreign policy myths. Following in the footsteps of William Appleman Williams, Walter LaFeber and Howard Zinn, the Stone - Kuznick team grapples with the unsavory legacy of American militarism. The amount of research presented is impressive. I found their heroic profile of the unsung Henry Wallace admirable. Make room on your book shelf or Kindle for this compelling leftist primer". – Douglas Brinkley, author Dean Acheson
"Finally, a book with the guts to challenge the accepted narrative of recent American history. Read it and realize that in America, there is what actually happened, and a parallel universe of myth and conventional wisdom. This is the 'Washington didn't really chop down the cherry tree' book for our last hundred years." -- Bill Maher "Many books have been written about specific episodes of American intervention and military aggression. And yet the master narrative remains intact: the US is the "indispensable nation," relied upon by people and nations around the world to preserve the peace and defend freedom. The immense contribution of The Untold History of the United States is to shatter the conventional wisdom, challenging readers to re-conceptualise the American role in the world. It is a fair guess that everyone will find something in this book that they disagree with. But it is a certainty that everyone, who reads The Untold History will learn something new and be compelled to examine long held assumptions. For students of US history this is an invaluable work."—Carolyn Eisenberg, author Drawing the Line "By casting a spotlight on the shadier aspects of America's past, as well as the humane alternatives, Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick provide a thought-provoking rebuttal to the nationalist myths that are far too often served up as history. They remind us that, until Americans have the courage to confront reality, they will remain trapped by their illusions."—Lawrence Wittner, author Confronting the Bomb "We won't be able to manage America's future if we don't know its past. In their 'Untold Story, Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick peel away layers of misleading myth about America in the 20th century. Some will be surprised, others angry. Most will understand their nation much better, especially the young. Then perhaps we can move forward in the new century."—Jeff Madrick, author The Age of Greed "Stone and Kuznick provide a boldly critical view of the most painful aspects of American history. Their perspective on nuclear danger is especially illuminating. They make clear how close we have come to the ultimate human absurdity of annihilating ourselves as a species with our own technology. One thinks of the Enlightenment motto, 'Dare to know!' The knowledge we gain can be a source of powerful wisdom."—Robert Jay Lifton, author Witness to an Extreme Century "Agree or Disagree: It's time for serious people to confront rather than avoid or attempt to denigrate the profound challenges raised by Stone and Kuznick. They are asking (and answering!) all the right questions."—Gar Alperovitz, author The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb "The Untold History of America is a fascinating and provocative work. This courageous and clear-minded account of American history and the foundations of the American empire is a milestone in a surprisingly small genre of books, namely, critical history written of and for the people. It should have the widest possible reading."—Bruce Cumings, author The Korean War "phenomenally great book"—David Swanson, author War Is a Lie Here are links to some of the reviews and interviews and our response to one critic: 'Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States': Facts through a new lens "Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States" airs Monday at 8 p.m. on Showtime. Oliver Stone's 'Untold History' Oliver Stone's Untold, Unboring History of the United States Oliver Stone's The Untold History of the US premieres tonight on Showtime
Seitz on Oliver Stone's The Untold History of the United States: Telling Tales Out of School Oliver Stone: America is an "outlaw nation" The cinematic renegade talks about Obama, FDR, his new Showtime series and the myth of American exceptionalism Oliver Stone's Alternate States
Oliver Stone on War, George Bush, Ken Burns, and His New Show OP-ED: About the Untold History of the United States Sunday, November 11, 2012 Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick Defend Their Untold History London Guardian TV interview http://video.pbs.org/video/2301570495/